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-Galatians 1:10 (KJV)

Any idiot can recite scripture…answer my question, ya big pussy. Show some shred of ability to reason logically instead of avoiding what you know to be a flaw in your robotic response.

Answer my question…or remain the fraudulent huckster you have proven yourself to be.

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Philippians 2:12(b) (KJV)

Let me ask you this…If she has found religion, etc, whatever you want to call it, and really wants to “come clean” about the charges against her, why wouldnt she simply confess (if she is actually guilty) and take her punishment instead of going through a trial where she might actually be acquitted, yet still be guilty (remember OJ?)… how would that honor god as she is now trying to portray herself as doing? Is not one of the cornerstones of god’s law that one confess their sins?
You cannot conveniently substitute the rule of law on earth for god’s law just to suit your own convenience…

What say you?

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- Proverbs 16:20(b) (KJV)

No offense to those who are similarly religiously inclined…

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Not having a phone number in the phone book proves what, exactly? “Squat” is the correct answer.

Why dont you check his record with the Nevada bar…has he ever been suspended, cited, or otherwise written up by the bar for any violations?

If so, maybe you have a beef. If not, I am at a loss to understand why you seem to hate the dude so much. Grandstanding is part of the game. Also, just because CT and KR signed a “joint rep agreement” doesnt mean it is proper. In this case it is being challenged on conflict issues…That is exactly the argument Judge Glass is making…

Is has nothing to do with “This is America” blah blah blah…This rule is meant to protect both the defendants and the people…

Im betting the NSC rules for Glass.

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But I do think that anyone who gripes at me, saying, “God S&A, why do you LIKE HER so much?!” is just being childish. It isn’t about that. We don’t have a friendship any longer and haven’t since Craig threatened me and Kelly didn’t lift a finger on my behalf or leave Craig seeing what a jackass he was for having done it.

For me, that was it. But do I wish anyone, no matter waht their crime, ill will? No, not really. I think it’s really important to look compassionately at all sides of the issue - not as a bleeding heart or “tree hugger” but as a person who understands that while it was a heinous crime, up until that moment, all of those people were struggling with their humanity. Still are.

That’s all.

Good point, you do stupid things to the degree of how low your self esteem is. I mean there is low self esteem as seen on girls gone wild videos then there is incredibly pathetic low self esteem, resulting in murder due to drugs, and whatever else motivated Kelly to start the killing of Melissa James.

S&A glad you clarified you feel Kelly should do time for this crime. I was under the impression you felt she was not responsible for her actions due to Craig. Glad that is not the case.

Anyway…

KNEWTHEM: Yes, she had all of those things, so the answer to your question lies in another question… “If she had all of those things, and you and I assume those are the things that matter, then why didn’t she walk away?? - why werne’t they enough?” That’s the point. When a person has issues, they don’t think logically. They lack something and they are always seeking to find that something they lack. For Kelly, it was male approval. She never got it at home. It’s the reason she was an overachiever too. some of the world’s most successful achievers are the most fucked up,btw.

She saw Craig as this popular studly guy who was the hottest guy she’d ever dated - the epitome of an athlete and all she ever wanted. SHe thought if she had his approval, she’d be validated. Now you and I don’t see him that way and probably never have, but she did. So through her eyes, he completed her (sorry for the lame Jerry Maguire line there).

Think of it as a socket - she’s the female socket,with negative space and he’s the male plug. She got what she needed - negativeand positive - from
Craig because she gave him that kind of power over her. So in that situation, it isn’t as easy to leave. I know you guys don’t understan that - you either Chain - but it’s the way it works psychologically.

If what I am saying is not true, then why did that heinous couple in Canada get together and torture and rape and slay those women, and laugh on camera, etc… and why did the woman let her fiance rape her sister after drugging her? She never exhibited behavior like that prior to him, but the chemistry was overwhelmingly bad. Why wouldn’t you walk away? Ummm…50 million different reasons, each individual and each fucked up, but they don’t walk away.

That doesn’t mean, and I’ve never said, that Kelly shouldn’t do time for her crimes. I never said that ever. I do believe she should. She needs to see consequence for her dogged pursuit of dysfunction to the point of destruction. BUT.. I am able to be objective and compassionate also.
I think these are good qualities and I’m not sorry for putting them out there.

Good cop, Bad cop?

Denue is playing the bad cop so Kelly can feel free to pursue her own defense. Think about it… I mean really think about it:
If your husband is an intimidating, menacing guy - and I don’t think anyone can deny that - and she’s seen how he works people over in the past 8 years - do you honestly believe that she is going to be “DIRECT” about her attempts to seek a separate defense???

IT’S HER ONLY GODDAMNED CHANCE, PEOPLE!!! HELLO!?

And she knows she has to be a “joiner” or Craig will turn on her. She is doing some careful jockeying and Denue doesn’t mind being the fall guy in looking like they are at odd and disparate.

The single biggest clue to indicate to me that that was TRUE, is her recent comment:

“It’s in God’s hands… whatever happens, was meant to happen”

If she TRULY wanted to be aligned with her husband, she would NEVER say it like that. She would be spitting mad and would be practically clawing to get her way - if anyone knows her, they know that, especially since getting together with Craig, she has NO problem voicing anger or venom toward those who are wronging her. While I know she’s not a loose cannon like Craig and wouldnt do that in court, certainly in statements or in other forms, she would make it known.

She’s being passive to save her OWN DAMN LIFE in more ways than one!
And that’s something to truly thank the Lord over, after 8 long ridiculous misspent years!

And Chain, Sorry, but you don’t know what you’re talking about. I’ll go out on a limb and just say that. You don’t know her history with men and you don’t know her like I did. You also have clear bias against Kelly and for Craig - it’s always been like that.

And believe me, my comments are not bias FOR Kelly either. I knew both and was friends at one time with BOTH - and a spade is a spade. I know he was a criminal and she was not. I know she was manipulative and had flaws and issues and underlying anger - and as a former friend I have clearly said that. BUT… if you think that her personality did NOT change once she was with Craig, either you’re blind or you’re unwilling to see the truth. Sadly, they should never have gotten together.

Back to issue…
I do believe that Kelly would be BEST served by Denue. Maybe the defense of a battered woman is flawed, but I don’t believe it’s being brought out for its own sake - I think there is much more strategy behind it and I personally think Denue is very, very shrewd in doing it. There is much more to this face than we currently are seeing.