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Catherine Crier chimes in on the Titus video - “WHAT ON EARTH IS GOING ON?”

Catherine Crier reported on the Titus video today. One of the more popular courtTV NEWS’ television shows.

“A scene straight out of silence of the lambs,” says Catherine Crier.

Glenn Puit, from the Las Vegas Review Journal, spoke about the video and why Titus was removed from his cell. He said the video is a little startling to watch, but that the police didn’t do anything wrong. Glenn states that Titus didn’t do anything wrong as it related to the airduct incident. Mr. Titus was also a suspect in a possible escape attempt. Glenn also spoke about the alleged murder for hire plot.

Catherin asked why the video was released and Glenn told her that through issuing an “Open records request” is how the tape was obtained.

Titus lawyer, Mark Saggese, asked, is it necessary to have him naked and “hog-tie” him?

Tony Papa, author of “15 years to life” and spent 12 years in jail also added his comments. He thought that this is a classic case of authoritative overkill. He thinks it’s a human violation and a viloation of his right. It’s used to intimidate.

“First things first, I need to get this innocent man into courts to get him free. Craig Titus is an innocent man.” Saggese stated this when asked if they would pursue any legal action over what took place on the videos. It’s clear there is no case and that was his answer instead of saying, no we are not. He went on to say he feels he (Craig) is being humiliated.

The trial is set to begin April 2, 2007.

53 Responses to “Catherine Crier chimes in on the Titus video - “WHAT ON EARTH IS GOING ON?””

  1. darkstar Says:

    These TV pundits crack me up…their only interest is in ratings, and sensationalizing this stuff sells…

    Tony Papa, whoever he is, has got to be the most biased bloviator going…is he the only commenter Crier could find? Silence of the Lambs, indeed! Tony, your 15 minutes are up, dude…

    And Saggese is sounding weaker all the time…anybody with half a brain could see through the “innocent man” spin…of course he has no case against the cops…

    Humiliated, my ass…

    d*

  2. Disgusted Says:

    Titus got better treatment than he deserved. This was a contolled relocation of a difficult inmate. Several guards were dispatched not only to control Titus but the area as anyone can tell by one guard saying,”Number nie, away from the window”.

    Saggase must be himself desperate for taking a case he cannot possibly win. Don’t worry dude your name will soon be forgotten just like the ambulance chaser who lost the Laci Peterson case. You don’t see the celebs hiring him anymore now do you. Only people with dignity can be huniliated, an asset that Craig doesn’t have therefore humilation is an emotion he cannot experience.

    By the way, who gives a shit what Tony Papa thinks? I think I saw a copy of his book being used to hold a door open at the ninty-nine cent store.

  3. caffrey Says:

    This video is ‘a little startling to watch’???? I don’t think so and I don’t think the guards treated him badly at all - they appear nothing but professional to me. Okay, so they NOW know CT had nothing to do with the vandal on the roof but they didn’t know it THEN. I don’t think Saggese has a leg to stand on over this incident, but it is frustrating listening to a desperate attorney throwing all his toys out the crib in a bid to create doubt. I agree that the media are sensationalizing this - and it’s these situations that prevent law enforcement officers from being able to handle inmates and criminals in future situations.

  4. venice member, $Version=1 Says:

    Caffrey:

    My thoughts exactly.

    They transferred an inmate who they felt was an escape risk - did they hurt him in anyway - no - some nurses saw his wiener - sorry - I do not codone prisoner abuse - but the guards have to protect themselves and the public - they followed procedure - the ACLU didn’t even raise an eyebrow c’mon

  5. Buffohman Says:

    I think the actions of the officers was wrong. Total abuse of power. Threatening a man tied up and defenseless is purely abuse.
    Authorites in Vegas should be shocked at this video. Changes need to be made.

  6. Sean T Says:

    Sadly this is how its done..I think alot of people have forgotton that hes innocent till proven gulity..I think if you looked at this video after he was found not guilty you may have a whole other view on it…

  7. Volkhammer Says:

    The videotaped events have absolutely nothing to do with Titus’ innocence or guilt in the murder of Melissa James. It had everything to do with a potential breach of a secured facility. It’s just Titus’ tough luck that he happened to be in a cell close to where the intruder was spotted on the roof.
    You could argue reasonably that another inmate occupying that same cell may not have gotten the same treatment, but let’s not forget that Titus is an intimidating presence with a documented history of violent behavior.
    Even the ACLU with its penchant for overreacting to these types of events agreed that there was nothing inappropriate about the way Titus was treated.

  8. don Says:

    Why couldn’t they simply shackle his hands and legs and move him to a different cell. Why all the rigamarole with the retrint chair and blindfolds?

    Watching people in jobs like this, you get a distonce impression of immature “toughs” who love to lord over people and who never really matured past their late teens.

  9. darkstar Says:

    Sounds more like the inmates than the guards….immature “toughs” who love to lord over people and who never matured past their teens…
    maybe that’s why they landed their sorry asses in jail in the first place…

    d*

  10. don Says:

    It certainly may fit many of the inmates to a “T”, but you know what? The majority of “Law Enforcement” personnel are every bit as bad. The good thing for them is is that their “thuginess” is legally sanctioned by the state, and they’re very well aware of the fact.

  11. KNEW THEM Says:

    Dark* would you please return to earth and leave the land of guilty until proven innocent behind.

  12. KNEW THEM Says:

    Dark*……….PLEASE come back to earth! We miss U here. Don’s 95% right.

  13. chainsaw Says:

    First of all, on the roof? I think not, CCDC is 14 stories high, he is not on the top floor. they would have had to get through 5 other floors at least to get to CT. The guards should have used common sense. But they didn’t.

    d*

    I don’t think this is d*. Someone is using his login name. If not
    what happened. He is innocent until proven guilty. He hasn’t even been charged with escape or the hit. He was a worker, “listen closely” a trustee who has free roam of the prison “at least the floor” before the alleged escape, and after the hit accusation. You do not become a trustee until you get a clean- I mean clean inmate discipline record, no exceptions. So if anyone says he was misbehaving is very wrong.

    The defendants in the binion murder trial were in the same prison. Should they have gotten treatment like they gave CT. They were at a later date exhonerated. Also, from the discovery channel, I thought they were guilty as hell. A lesson learned for trusting them “the media.

    d*
    I’ll make you a deal, I’ll be open to CT murdering MJ, even though I think he is covering for KR. If you will just be open to the fact that CT, not even considering his innocence or guilt, really should have just been shackled and handcuffed. Keep the five guys there, don’t strip him and put him strapped in a chair with a effing blindfold. Shackle and cuff him the same way he walked into that Solitary Confinement Cell. Just to clarify one thing, the vents in Jail are not exactly like the ones in a home. they are like 6in by 6in. That just makes sense, it is a jail.

    Lets all just be open. If CT really was a problem inmate, than he got what he deserved. I need more than just the Metro’s word. They said alot of things, but charge CT with none. What is going on over there. Everyone should demand an answer. Charge him, or leave him alone to stand trial.
    If found guilty, hang him.

    What ya’ll think? Deal?

  14. Jason G. Says:

    Anybody here like to debate the FACTS as they pertain to this latest incident, or any other? Show me the FACT, tell me where I can see or read about the FACT, give me your understanding of the FACT and I would be happy to share my understanding of the FACT with you. Treat me with the same respect you deserve and I’ll bet that the majority of those who choose to participate with us will come to a simular conclusion. We can also agree to disagree if you like.

    IF, on the other hand, your mind is made up and you do not want to be confused with the FACTS, do not participate.

  15. don Says:

    LOL!…..let me put on my psychic hat…..You Mr. Darkstar are/where in LE OR someone close to you, e.g. family member etc. IS? Right? Right? I know it’s one or the other.

    You know, it’s one of those deal that I always say I’m going to do but never quite get around to it….Because seriously, it’s the SAME EXACT THING with you hardons for cops. Really, the same counter BS arguements EVERY SINGLE TIME.

    E.g. “”So you’ve had one bad experience with cops, so you think they’re all bad”.

    “If you hadn’t done anything wrong in the first place, you wouldn’t have had to deal with the cops”.

    And of course I MUST be some form of career criminal right, otherwise I wouldn’t mind cops behavior that would land the plebian in jail, correct?

    And blah, blah, blah,

    Fact is, I’m sure you know where I’m coming from, Like I said, you’re either one yourself, or “in tight” with someone who is…those are the ones who always steadfastly make excuses for cop’s actions, no matter what.

    I’ve had arguments with people like you on this subject over and over again, it’s the same every time.

    Here’s a little reading for ya dude, especially the two commentaries from Lew Rockwell, he pretty much sums it up.

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/greenhut/greenhut31.html

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/greenhut/greenhut32.html

    http://www.unknownnews.net/cops.html

    http://policecrime.proboards28.com/index.cgi

  16. venice member, $Version=1 Says:

    I’ll be the first to admit that law enforcement officers can be bullies etc…but what did they do that was so goddamn bad - it’s prison for crissakes - don’t fight us or u could get hurt or killed - that sounds like a label on prescription drugs - “operating heavy machinery cld result in injuries or death” - I mean did they use chinese water torture? Did they electrocute him what? Somebody bitched about the number of guards - what’s ur point - that it shld have been a fair fight?

  17. Jason G. Says:

    Titus was as quite as that church mouse BEFORE the “Murder-For-Hire” plot. Consider the timing. When it came out that he had not fallen for Mr.Hittermans’ letter or the set-up it’s self, this is when things again started to happen. Accusation, innuendo after more assusations and innuendos. ALL leveled by DA Daskus directly at Titus. Titus WAS quiet (we had heard nothing) until he didn’t break in the “plot”. IF the DA and Police would be truthful and factual with there accounts of WHY they treated ONLY Titus this way it would help their credibility. Do not treat any prisoner this way UNLESS you can back it up with factual reasons for this specific type of treatment even if that explanation comes after the fact. I just want to know it was justified and not a type of “head-play” for their enjoyment or practice. I would be upset with this kind of treatment of ANY prisoner WITHOUT proper justification. I have a very difficult time swollowing the police explaniation of this incident. An unknowen man on the top of a 12 story building 5 floors above Titis’ cell helping him escape through the 6″ X 12″ vent??? It’s just been one fiasco after another since the “Murder-For-Hire” plot begain unraveling for the DA.

  18. don Says:

    “So what….? Go do something about it if you feel so strongly…”

    Like what? Stand on a corner and picket? Inneffective.

    “if all this is so prevalent, why hasnt it been given more visibility?”

    oh c’mon.

    “Those obscure web sites have a clear agenda…and are one sided to the point of being propaganda”

    They’re just newspaper articles and local newscasts of police improprieties, no doubt a humble percentage of which actually gets reported. So what’s the problem with the websites?

    “so far you havent given me any reasons to change my mind”

    And I have a feeling I never will.

    “As for me being “one of them” or whatever, I havent the foggiest notion of what you are talking about”

    OK, OK then, maybe a son, daughter, nephew, niece, Godson/Goddaughter, grandson, a buddy’s relative??? No one in your close circle of human interactions isn’t associated with Law Enforcement? Just asking.

  19. Land of the Free Says:

    Innocent until proven guilty?

  20. chainsaw Says:

    Everyone have a Merry Christmas or happy holiday, whichever faith you are and whichever side you’re on this site. I truly believe that all of us want justice when it is warrented. If MJ’s mother bitch slapped CT from her grief, I wouldn’t blame her one bit, whether he was convicted or not.

    I think I’am going to ban myself from this site until after XMAS. Possibly till the New Year too, but don’t know if I can hold out that long.

  21. KNEW THEM Says:

    Well said Chain and Merry Xmas……………I think what we want is for all the bullshit to stop being added in n let Craig have his day. Right?

  22. darkstar Says:

    don,
    Ive heard your excuses for why nothing can be done…why the defeatist attitude? Im interested in knowing what you think can or should be done…
    I dont have a problem with the websites, but it is most likely nobody reads them except those who hold similar opinions…maybe you should organize something to get them more visibility…Im not goofing on you…if you feel strongly about something, figure out a way to ratchet it up…
    And nope, no law enforcement in my mishpacha….
    AND I agree with chain and knew them, just looking for justice…let the judge and jury sort it out…all this other BS just gives us something to rag about until the main event…
    Have a good one, everyone…
    d*

  23. KNEW THEM Says:

    D* Glad we agree on something…..U know I just like to f with u sometimes! No harm meant. I just want an old friend to get a fair shake, because he and his wife need it. Merry Christmas

  24. don Says:

    Basically my point was that many of our social “heroes” i.e. law enforcement personnel aren’t saints.

    I was trying to point out that, it’s a lot more than a few disgruntled “criminals” like myself who have experienced the way cops operate, and who believe themselves as some sort of mini-gods, answerable to no one, and who have the blessing of the state (i.e. the DA’s office) to act anyway they wish with little or no consequence.

    That is simply a fact I was trying to bring to your attention.

  25. KNEW THEM Says:

    Well said Don Juan.

  26. formerfitness Says:

    I read this yesterday and felt it should be passed on here. Merry Christmas,Happy Hanukkah, etc. to you all too. I too have my own opinions, yet there is something larger then myself, or all of us, to consider.

    “Who are we to accuse anybody? It is possible that we see them do something we think is not right, but we do not kow why they are doing it. Jesus encouraged us not to judge anyone. Maybe we are the ones responsible for others doing things we think are not right. Let us not forget that we are dealing with our brothers and sisters. That leper, that sick person, that drunk, are all our brothers and sisters. They too, have been created by a greater love. This is something we should never forget. That sick person, that alcoholic, that thief, are brothers and sisters. It is possible that they find themselves abandoned in the street because no one gave them love and understanding. You and I could be in their place if we had not received love and understnading from other human beings. I will never forget the alcoholic man who told me his story. He was a man who had surrendered to alcohol to forget the fact no one loved him. Before we judge, we have the duty to look inside ourselves. ” (Thank you Mother Theresa.- her words)

  27. shockandawe Says:

    Don, simply “shackling his legs and hands” would do nothing for their protocol for safety. With high risk inmates, and he is, this is what you do.
    There was nothing fishy there, nothing inappropriate and nothing wrong with being safe, rather than sorry. You should see the physical effects of an inmate with nothing to lose on a guard who simply was told to move the guy from one end of the jail to the other. Some have lost noses, fingers, and lives… Titus’ pathetic “these are making me claustrophobic” comments made me laugh. He’s so focused on himself and his own discomfort… If he was a man, he’d say “Yes, I killed her and I am sorry” … but of course, all of us who have known CT forever, know this will never happen because he isn’t a man!

  28. KNEW THEM Says:

    Shock: I know what you’re saying and who gives a shit how they move an inmate as long as they don’t “physically abuse” him……BUT…you have got to admit Craig is no Dahmer, Rameriez, or Bundy. Right? All this shit is starting to get old quick. What about that speedy trial part?

  29. darkstar Says:

    Knew them,
    CT is not like those you mentioned, but he is accused of murder, just like they were. But, Im not looking to pick a fight…He certainly is not a Dahmer or Bundy.
    As for the speedy trial, the defense has undoubtedly waived time, and the trial has been delayed by mutual agreement..I posted a while back that the backlog of cases (especially for criminal trials in LV) dictates the schedule…No constitutional issue here…
    Hey, have a good Christmas and well yak later..
    d*

  30. darkstar Says:

    WELL I GOT TO SAY TO FORMERFITNESS.
    I DO AGREE WITH PART OF YOUR POST TO A EXTENT.. BUT I AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN BY :

    That leper, that sick person, that drunk, are all our brothers and sisters. They too, have been created by a greater love

    EVERYONE HAD BEEN CREATED BY GOD IF WE DO BELIEVE IN GOD .. !!!
    HOWEVER YOU DO NOT MENTION PEOPLE LIKE :
    TED BUNDY Bundy eventually confessed to over 30 actual number of his victims may have been far higher, perhaps over 100.
    DAVID BERKOWIZ,who confessed to killing six people and wounding several others in New York City in the late 1970s
    AILLEN WUORNOS, admitted to killing seven men, in separate MYRA HIDLEYThe Moors murders are named as such because four of the victims were buried on Saddleworth Moor near Oldham in Lancashire. Their five victims were children.
    ,Rostov Ripper. He was convicted of the murder of 52 women and children between 1978 and 1990
    Michael Woodman, 44,A bodybuilder murdered his girlfriend in a fit of rage because she stood up to him.
    David Bieber was a body builder and personal trainer in Lee County, Fla. In the mid nineties he got caught up in a romantic triangle with two other body builders
    Police say Bieber found it so easy to kill that he decided to have a former girlfriend murdered. Cops say the hit man was hired a second time. But this time the hit man missed his intended target four times on August 4, 1995. Police learned of the murder plots through confidential contacts and issued warrants for David Bieber on Oct. 12, 1995.
    NOT TO FORGET OUR LAST BUT NOT LEAST SADDAM HUSSEIN
    Total number killed in attacks (official figure as of 9/5/02): 2,819
    Number of firefighters and paramedics killed: 343
    Number of NYPD officers: 23
    Number of Port Authority police officers: 37
    Number of WTC companies that lost people: 60
    Number of employees who died in Tower One: 1,402
    Number of employees who died in Tower Two: 614
    Number of employees lost at Cantor Fitzgerald: 658
    Number of U.S. troops killed in Operation Enduring Freedom: 22
    Number of nations whose citizens were killed in attacks: 115
    Ratio of men to women who died: 3:1
    Age of the greatest number who died: between 35 and 39
    Bodies found “intact”: 289
    Body parts found: 19,858
    Number of families who got no remains: 1,717
    Estimated units of blood donated to the New York Blood Center: 36,000
    Total units of donated blood actually used: 258
    Number of people who lost a spouse or partner in the attacks: 1,609
    Estimated number of children who lost a parent: 3,051
    Percentage of Americans who knew someone hurt or killed in the attacks: 20
    FDNY retirements, January–July 2001: 274
    FDNY retirements, January–July 2002: 661
    Number of firefighters on leave for respiratory problems by January 2002: 300
    Number of funerals attended by Rudy Giuliani in 2001: 200
    Number of FDNY vehicles destroyed: 98
    Tons of debris removed from site: 1,506,124
    Days fires continued to burn after the attack: 99
    Jobs lost in New York owing to the attacks: 146,100
    Days the New York Stock Exchange was closed: 6
    Point drop in the Dow Jones industrial average when the NYSE reopened: 684.81
    Days after 9/11 that the U.S. began bombing Afghanistan: 26
    Total number of hate crimes reported to the Council on American-Islamic Relations nationwide since 9/11: 1,714
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    Estimated cost of cleanup: $600 million
    Total FEMA money spent on the emergency: $970 million
    Estimated amount donated to 9/11 charities: $1.4 billion
    Estimated amount of insurance paid worldwide related to 9/11: $40.2 billion
    Estimated amount of money needed to overhaul lower-Manhattan subways: $7.5 billion
    Amount of money recently granted by U.S. government to overhaul lower-Manhattan subways: $4.55 billion
    Estimated amount of money raised for funds dedicated to NYPD and FDNY families: $500 million
    Percentage of total charity money raised going to FDNY and NYPD families: 25
    Average benefit already received by each FDNY and NYPD widow: $1 million
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    AND MORE AND MORE ..
    NOW YES THEY ARE ALL BROTHERS AND SISTERS AMONG EACH OTTER IF YOU ASK ME BUT, THE PART WERE YOU SAY ” GREATER LOVE ” WERE DO YOU SEE THEM BEING CREATED BY A GREATER LOVE ? …
    I AM SHORE IF YOU WERE ONE OF THE VICTIMS SISTER , FRIEND .. OR OF ALL THE PEOPLE ABOVE THAT ARE NO LONGER HERE .. YOU WOLD NOT POST A MESSAGE THE WAY YOU DID …
    . I GOT TO TELL YOU THAT PEOPLE LOSE “LOVE” EVERY DAY LIKE MAURA DID LIKE I DID AND MAYBE YOU .
    . BUT WE DO NOT END UP IN THE STREETS CAUSE OF IT … AND THE ONES THAT ARE ,,, ARE NOT CAUSE THEY NEVER HAD LOVE .. IT IS A LOT MORE THEN THAT ( CAUSE IF YOU DO BELIEVE IN GOD LIKE YOU SAY THEN YOU SHOULD KNOW THA GOD GIVES US LOVE EVERY DAY TRUE GOOD TIEMS AND BAD TIEMS ALWAYS ) .. CAUSE IF IT WAS NOT .. WELL GHEE WE ALL SHOULD BE LIVING IN THE STREETS HA ??
    YOU SAY: I will never forget the alcoholic man who told me his story. He was a man who had surrendered to alcohol to forget the fact no one loved him.
    WELL I AM SHORE I WOULD HAVE FELT THE SAME LIKE YOU DID !!!
    I HAVE AND STILL DO.. BUT NOW MY $$ IS GOING TO PEOPLE LIKE MELISSA’S FUND ,AND VICTOMS THAT HAVE LOST THERE LOVED ONE THE WAY MELISSA’S MOM HAS AND TO THE SOLDIERS IN IRAQ ,
    I GIVE AND TRY TO DONATE AS MUCH AS I CAN .. AND THAT IS WAT PEOPLE DO KNOW ME FOR ..IN THE FITNESS INDUSTRY AND IN MY COMUNITY …
    BUT I WILL NOT STOP AND FELL SAD FOR A ALCOHOLIC MAN LIKE THE ONE YOU MENTION .. CAUSE WEN YOUR HEART IS TORN APART .. FROM LOOSING YOUR CHILD OR FROM WITNESSING THE DEATH OF A LOVED ONE .. OR HAVING TO SEE IN FRONT OF YOU WEN YOU OPEN THE DOOR A SOLIDER AND BE ANNOUNCE THAT YOUR SON AND .BROTHER HAS PASSED AWAY IN IRAQ… . I COULD SAY THAT THOSE ARE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WOTHY OF BEING CALLED:
    “GREATER LOVE”
    DON’T YOU THINKS SO? ( ARE YOU SHORE THIS MAN TURND TO ALCHOOL CAUSE HE FELT NO ONE LOVED HIM ? SOUNDS LIKE HE THEN HAD A PSYCHOLOGICAL PROBLEM .. (MAYBE YOU MEAN HE LOST SOME ONE THAT HE LOVED ? CAUSE THEN I CAN UNDERSTAND MAYBE THAT SOME PEOPLE DO FALL SO HARD TO THE POINT OF LOOSING EVERYTHING AND THEM SELF TOO ..)
    I KNOW GOD WANTS US TO ” FORGIVE ALL “.. AND IN OUR OWN WAY WE DO ..
    AND MELISSA’S MOM HAS IN HER OWN WAY ..
    AS I HAVE IN MINE AND YOU IN YOURS .. AND SO ON .. BUT PLEASE DON’T USE ” MADRE TERESA” WORDS ON THIS CASE ….OR ANY MURDER CASE.
    I HAD THE HONOR TO HAVE MEET MADRE TERESA GROWING UP IN ITALY FOR 21 YEARS .. (A WOMAN SENT FROM GOD BY GIVING ALL OF HER HEART AND SOUL AND LIFE TO MANY INT HIS EARTH)I CAN TELL YOU THAT WEN YOU PUT THIS QUOTATION FROM MADRE TERESA . …Before we judge, we have the duty to look inside ourselves. ” (Thank you Mother Theresa.- her words) IT IS A QUOTATION THAT IS INDEED FOR MANY PEOPLE ON THIS POST SINCE THEY DO NOT KNOW THEM … HOW EVER FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS WAT THEY ARE DOING SO LET THEM .. MAY NOT BE WAT WE WANT TO HEAR .. OR IT WILL L GET US UPSET .. BUT THAT IS WAT THIS BOARD IS ABOUT ..
    HOWEVER OPINIONS NEED TO BE POSTED BY EVERYONE IN A RESPECTFUL MATTER …,
    ABOUT THE PART WERE YOU SAY ……..
    Maybe we are the ones responsible for others doing things we think are not right
    WELL WE CAN BLAME OUR SELF FOR THINGS THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE IN OUR LIFE DO . MAYBE CAUSE WE TELL THEM TO DO , FOR IT TURN OUT TO HAVE BEEN A BAD CALL..
    BUT I WILL BE DAM IF YOU THINK THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR OTHERS DOING THINGS THAT WE THINK ARE NOT RIGHT ..? ( I AM NOT RESPONSIBILE FOR ALL NAMES MENTION ABOVE THAT KILLD AND MURDER ALL THE VICTIMS THAT WERE SENT BY
    “A GREATER LOVE” I HOPE YOU DON’T LIVE YOUR LIFE BEING RESPONCIBILE OF THAT COSED IF YOU DO .. IT WILL BE A SAD LIFE YOU WILL BE LIVING ….
    I HOPE YOU BELIEVE IN GOD THE WAY I DO . MELISSA’S MOM DOSE ,AND ALL THE FAMILY’S VICTIMS ABOVE … FORMER FITNESS…!!!
    PEOPLE THAT ARE MURDERES OR ATTEMPT TO MURDER SOME ONE ARE NOT WORTHY OF BEING CALLED THE “GREATER LOVE “….
    HOWEVER WE VICTIMS TRY TO FORGIVE THEM AND HEAL EVERY DAY …
    HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS ..
    AND A HEALTHY AND HAPPY NEW YEAR ,,,
    ROSETTA
    http://www.rosettamortati.com/melissajames.html

  31. ROSETTA Says:

    the post above was from ROSETTA not DARKSTAR ……. sorry DARKSTAR error name on my part !!! MERRY XMAS ROSETTA………
    http://www.rosettamortati.com/melissajames.html

  32. formerfitness Says:

    Rosetta, I personally think that Kelly and Craig are responsible for the death of Melissa and deserve to a life of hell, anguish, and death for the crime committed. That is my opinion. Kelly was my role model for years as an NPC fitness competitor, ..other than that I did not know them, or Melissa personally. To shed a little light, the day I left that post was also the day I went “home” for the holiday to visit my sick brother who happens to be a chronic meth user …unfortunately only one of his many problems…and supposedly a common theme with this case & so it reminded me a little bit of it. He has made my life hell and now I try to stay away. Many people would also like to see him sufffering and dead too I am sure of it. But, I went to see him anyway. Alcoholism is also all over my family. Mother Theresa’s words are one’s I needed to hear personally. Because I read this board, which is filled with opinions like mine, I felt if fitting to share it. You’re right that it could also hurt someone else. And, it is not the same as murder. It is true and thanks for reminding all of us that it can also be taken the wrong way by others. After reading your post, I can see one thing I have not done is donate money to Melissa’s cause. Because of your response, that is something I will do. The least any of us can do. I am a too serious thinker and can’t help but think of the murderer who died on the cross next to Christ and their conversation. It never made sense to me either. I wish I hadn’t thought of that parallel but I have. It does make me question my own faith. Innocent lives taken have no answers.
    I experienced this when my close friend was killed by a drunk driver. Others have had worse things happen. It took a long time to concede my anger (and the anger of many others) would not change anything but eat my life away. She was young. I can’t imagine the same feelings now, had it been my daughter. None of us can comprehend the emptiness felt by those close to Melissa. All of us have lives outside this board and none of us are immune from life. Everyone who reads this board has a life in which bad things have happened ..many affected by those you mentioned above. Mother Teresa, as you know worked with the poorest of the poor..the dying bodies in the streets, hence the references to leprosy, ..atrocities many of us haven’t experienced in the West. But, she is also made common reference to the worse atrocity of ‘poor in spirit’ ..refering often to the West..’civilized countries’ I will try to be more sensitive though. As far as some of us being responsible for others behaviors I hope she didn’t mean it like you took it. What I took is that we should all look inside ourselves or hate will rule our life. By the way, my background and life revolves around social work. So, for people like myself, we do feel responsible for preventing more Ted Bundy’s (etc) in the world. You can see why I never would have made it in the pros (fitness). or fit in for that matter. I still say guilty.

  33. Jason G Says:

    Great posts above! Where as I do agree with most I will reserve my final decision of guilt or innocence until I obtain more information. I am having trouble getting past all the apparent mistakes that are taking place. I just do not understand WHY??? does it just keep comming IF the Police and DA have all the evidence to convict Titis and Ryan?

    And my thoughts and prayers (along with us all) to Melissas’ family and frends. I can only imagine the pain this ordeal is causing while bringing this to an equitable and fair conclusion.

  34. Nicki Says:

    Darkstar, honey, get a fucking life! I post on here every so often and I have never seen someone so pathetic as you! You have obviously got some deep rooted issues for Craig. OH, would he not be your friend?

    As far as CT being a difficult inmate: Then, why did they make him a trustee the first few months he was there? The police department has even admitted that they were wrong for what they did.

    Glass and Daskas deserve to lose thier jobs over this. It was a hell of a coincedence that he got this treatment after the latest article came out about how Gross’s death and murder for hire plot was set up by the DA. LVPD IS AS CORRUPT AS THEY COME!

  35. Nicki Says:

    Sorry Darkstar! I did not know Rosetta used your name!

  36. Disgusted Says:

    Perhaps now you will not be so quick to judge as you have accused others.

    Craig Titus would not be my friend either due to his lack of social skills, sophistication and because his is just a plain asshole.

    How do you know he was made a trustee? It’s common knowledge this occurred during his incarceration in Lompoc but in Vegas, are you certain of this?

    When did the police admit wrongdoing for moving Craig?

    Glass and Daskas will not lose their jobs over this. Law enforcement agencies all over the country legally can and do perform mock murders to get to the truth which seems to be an issue with you besides Titus.

    Let’s say hypothetically that Titus is innocent. The ‘plot’ as you put it would have been in vain and they would not have their man. It could possibly have been a strong argument for bail but being the buffoon he is, Titus remains in jail.

    Your final statement is both irresponsible and dangerous, do you live in Vegas? You among other whiners ask that Titus not to be judged, what qualifies you to judge the LVPD?

  37. Nicki Says:

    Yes, disgusted I am certain of this. You have no idea who I am. I am not just some loser that did not know them personally and have nothing better else to do.

    The police admitted it after they let him put his clothes on two days later. It was also on Fox News that he was a trustee.

    I judge LVPD by the facts, sweetheart! Everything that goes on is documented in public records if you do not believe me. Do your homework if you are interested. Also, Craig was placed on the 5th floor from the very beginning.

  38. darkstar Says:

    nicki,

    The fact is, no one here knows who anyone else is, or who they know, or claim to know…you are NOTHING special…you certainly cannot prove any of what you are saying…

    Your Manson-like zeal for CT is pretty revealing though..

    d*

  39. LAS Says:

    Nicki, I know who you are. As for those of you who don’t, I think you should listen to her. What she says about this case is probably the closest thing to the truth that any of you will ever know.

  40. darkstar Says:

    LAS,

    On your and Nicki’s word alone, we from this point forward relinquish all common sense and rationality and in blind faith in your say so alone stand up against the great injustice being foisted upon the omnipotent Craig Titus….OOOMMMMMMM….OOOMMMMMM….OOOMMMMMMMM….

    NOT…

    Please, put down your crack pipe before you burn yourself…or somebody else…
    You two are soooo full of shit…

    d*

  41. Disgusted Says:

    I wish to echo the sentiments posted by d*.

  42. in the loop Says:

    Yeah, you better listen to those two, Nicki. They’re the only ones on this site that know all the facts. Didn’t you know that? Those tunnel vision goggles they have on must be strong. The way I see this whole episode is quite a bit of overkill. If CT was on the 5th floor, and someone is on the roof of a 12-14 story building, how is it that he could possibly get out of his cell to participate in an escape attempt? The whole explanation is outrageous. I’m sure they can lock down the whole prison including isolating all floors. Oh, and by the way, what happened to the guy on the roof? Why would anyone in their right mind break into a prison? Is CT the only “difficult” prisoner there? And yes, he was a trustee. Who gave the order to get CT and were there any other prisoners taken from their cells at the same time, in the same manner and for the same reason? I’m sure that until they grabbed the guy on the roof, they didn’t have any evidence that he was linked to CT. That’s if there was even someone on the roof.

  43. darkstar Says:

    in the loop…

    You are missing the point… CT wasnt charged with attemped escape, or conspiracy to murder witnesses…if he was, then I agree fully, that would be overkill…or at least severely lacking in enough subtantial evidence to make those charges stick…However, none of the stuff you mention above will have any bearing on the case in chief…

    But CT and KR are charged with murder and arson…and you dont have to be in the loop, no pun intended, to see that they are in deep guano because of it…

    d*

  44. Jason G Says:

    I agree that they are charged with and may be guilty of murder and arson. I just have a problem with the vast amount of accusatory remarks and innduendos that continue to be brought to light by the DA. If Titus and Ryan commited all of these crimes and the DA truly has the necessary evidence, as he claims to convict them of this crime, WHY?? does this “CRAP” just keep comming? These tactics are not normal or common in a case of this stature.

  45. darkstar Says:

    Look, the innuendo and accusations you refer to have been reported in the newspapers, and are the interpretation of the writer. The paper is in business to sell papers. There was some activity which caused the DA to investigate, and whether it was overly aggressive or not is subject to speculation. We dont know what information and details were given to the press, or how complete that information was. Once again, when the ACLU shrugs it off, it is highly unlikely to have any chance at getting any traction…

    These other incidents that occurred will have no bearing on the case in chief. Even if CT had been charged with attempted escape or conspiracy to murder witnesses, its not clear that they would have been tried with the murder and arson charges anyway. Maybe, maybe not.

    Im not convinced that these sort of tactics arent fairly common. Lawyer jockeying occurs on both sides and both are looking for as much of an advantage as possible…Im not saying its right, but it is a reality. Look at the tactics on the defense side in the OJ case…some of that shit was outrageous…it overwhelmed the DA, and look at the result…

    d*

  46. chainsaw Says:

    How the hell could someone post with anothers name accidentally.

  47. Jason G Says:

    I agree that “all” remarks are subject to interpretation and I too welcome the opportunity to discuss/debate such statements. I believe, however, that the timing of all the information provided us through the news media is very siginficant. Additionally, I believe that many of these reported actions of the DA will end up in court and anything found to be un-scrupulous or un-true will hurt his credibility. Where my mind is not made up when it comes to the guilt or innocence of Titus/Ryan, I do believe that there there are many of us who are now scrutinizing the actions of the DA.

    Additionally, please scroll down to comment #22, (the last), under the Dec 19, 2006 report, “Disturbing Photos of Craig Titus From Jail House Raid”, relating to the ACLU retracting their origional remarks.

    Happy New Year to all including the FAMILY & FRIENDS of Melissa James, Kelly Ryan and Craig Titus. Our thoughts and prayers will continue.

  48. darkstar Says:

    jason,

    See my comments re: your reference above at the “disturbing photos…” post.

    d*

  49. Intheloop Says:

    The bottom line is this. CT and KR have been arrested and chrged with these crimes. The tial hasn’t even started yet and there are a lot of people posting here that have them convicted already. I wouldn’t want them sitting on a jury to judge me for anything. The way some talk, they would convict before the prosecutors openning statement. Unless, of course they were there as eyewitnesses to the crime. You can’t come to a rational conclusion by what you read in the paper or on message boards or the sensationalizing TV media.

  50. darkstar Says:

    intheloop,

    “You can’t come to a rational conclusion by what you read in the paper or on message boards or the sensationalizing TV media.”

    By this logic, NOTHING you see in the media would be worthwhile wasting time reading! Where else do you think people get their facts upon which to form an opinion? Again, by your logic, you would need to be an eyewitness to every event in order to have some legitimate opinion about it…The fact is, plenty of details have been published that cause some people to think not guilty, and others to think guilty…Since no one on this board is likely to be on the jury, who cares what people think!! Its a discussion board, not a jury deliberation…

    The fact is, anyone with a strong-mind-already-made-up viewpoint of guilt OR innocence wouldnt be chosen to sit on the jury anyway…the voir dire proceedings will weed out any such potential jurors via both sides peremptory challenges…

    Nothing that anyone says here, especially one’s opinion pro or con, means squat to the outcome of this case one way or the other…

    d*

  51. Intheloop Says:

    I guess I wasn’t really clear with the way I worded that. What I see on these message boards seems to be people on both sides with tunnel vision. Not interested in anything that doesn’t conform to their preconcieved thoughts on the matter.

  52. Chainsaw Says:

    I hope that my posts have truely shown I’m unbiased. Certain events and reports that come out, have pushed me farther one way or the other. CT’s big mouth, as well as the LVPD’s overkill.

  53. darkstar Says:

    intheloop,

    On any message board or debate of any kind you will always have the hard right and hard left, the “guilties” and the “not guilties”… It is unavoidable. Sometimes these people make good points, sometimes it is hyperbole…

    I never heard of this guy Craig Titus or Kelly Ryan before this case. My simple opinion is that given the events and the evidence so far, it doesnt look too good for them. All this escape and mistreatment stuff IMHO is all smoke and no fire, and will not hurt or help CT’s case one way or the other. I do think CT likes to keep the spotlight on himself…Sure, the rule is innocent until proven guilty, but a message board isnt a jury or a court room…what people say here doesnt matter to the outcome beyond the entertainment value it provides to those participating here….

    Speaking of entertainment value, do any Vegas bookmakers have a line on the case?

    d*

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