Comments on: Titus subject of escape investigation http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/ Ongoing news as it becomes available related to the murder of Melissa James. Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:40:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.2 Comment on Titus subject of escape investigation by: KNEW THEM http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9811 Sat, 23 Dec 2006 06:49:08 +0000 http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9811 D* I think I read the guy who wrote the counterfitting book is putting up 50% of the cost. D* I think I read the guy who wrote the counterfitting book is putting up 50% of the cost.

]]> Comment on Titus subject of escape investigation by: darkstar http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9388 Sun, 17 Dec 2006 22:48:33 +0000 http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9388 Venice, I understand now...its a client retainer account... OK, so who is funding CT's account with Saggese? It sounds like KR's dad took the proceeds from the Adobe Arch house, and if CT is waiting for KR's moms money from her house, that will take awhile, as it probably has to go through probate... Chain, They will not walk...the murder for hire stuff is separate from the murder charges and arson. They wont wiggle off the hook that easy... d* Venice,

I understand now…its a client retainer account…
OK, so who is funding CT’s account with Saggese? It sounds like KR’s dad took the proceeds from the Adobe Arch house, and if CT is waiting for KR’s moms money from her house, that will take awhile, as it probably has to go through probate…

Chain, They will not walk…the murder for hire stuff is separate from the murder charges and arson. They wont wiggle off the hook that easy…

d*

]]> Comment on Titus subject of escape investigation by: chainsaw http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9380 Sun, 17 Dec 2006 17:48:53 +0000 http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9380 Oh yeah: Brady missed 3 meetings with the hitmen. Why did he show up the forth time, Cassim threatened Brady by saying he is in danger. So Brady showed up. This is unreal, Brady shows up, only when his life is threatened. It was in the paper. These people are gonna walk fellas. Oh yeah:

Brady missed 3 meetings with the hitmen. Why did he show up the forth time, Cassim threatened Brady by saying he is in danger. So Brady showed up. This is unreal, Brady shows up, only when his life is threatened. It was in the paper. These people are gonna walk fellas.

]]> Comment on Titus subject of escape investigation by: chainsaw http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9379 Sun, 17 Dec 2006 17:45:17 +0000 http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9379 New out Today: Review Journal. The cops are really trying hard. They have actually released that CT was working with narcotics cops to catch some drug dealers on the street. As well as some of the witnesses in his case that are drug abusers and dealers, titus gave the cops their car makes, where they live, ect. The cops are trying to get this guy killed in the Joint. They released tapes of him and brady talking on the phone about the cops tracking these dealers and witnesses. Cops routinely do this. "Tell us what you know and whos dealin dope, and we will talk favorable to the judge in you're case." The cops weren't trying to catch anyone. They were just trying to built a relationship with CT to get his trust. Anyone who reads this article, and can't see what extrordinary lengths they are trying to mickey mouse CT is crazy. Release jailhouse tapes before he even goes to trial? Trying to taint a jury a little Daskas? Was CT accusations of abuse a little to true? You all decide. I really belive that at the exact same time that the cops were tailing these witnesses that CT turned the cops onto in the first place, CT was planning to get them killed. Yeah, I really belive that. New out Today: Review Journal.

The cops are really trying hard. They have actually released that CT was working with narcotics cops to catch some drug dealers on the street. As well as some of the witnesses in his case that are drug abusers and dealers, titus gave the cops their car makes, where they live, ect.

The cops are trying to get this guy killed in the Joint.

They released tapes of him and brady talking on the phone about the cops tracking these dealers and witnesses. Cops routinely do this. “Tell us what you know and whos dealin dope, and we will talk favorable to the judge in you’re case.” The cops weren’t trying to catch anyone. They were just trying to built a relationship with CT to get his trust.

Anyone who reads this article, and can’t see what extrordinary lengths they are trying to mickey mouse CT is crazy.

Release jailhouse tapes before he even goes to trial? Trying to taint a jury a little Daskas? Was CT accusations of abuse a little to true?

You all decide.

I really belive that at the exact same time that the cops were tailing these witnesses that CT turned the cops onto in the first place, CT was planning to get them killed. Yeah, I really belive that.

]]> Comment on Titus subject of escape investigation by: KNEW THEM http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9373 Sun, 17 Dec 2006 12:44:18 +0000 http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9373 Another thing I think no one has brought up is the fact that there were no drugs/residue recovered anywhere throughout this entire ordeal. To me that's pretty amazing. Not that the house couldn't have been cleared out, but I keep thinking of that 3000 mile journey. Not a thing on them at the time of the arrest. Dting off nubain/opiates while driving across the country, wow! Did they stop along the way to get straight. CT and KR knew many people in different cities. $8300 in a can at the time of the arrest; I wonder where they stopped along the way....You know they did...more than once. This would be interesting things people could put in their written/audio books. Another thing I think no one has brought up is the fact that there were no drugs/residue recovered anywhere throughout this entire ordeal. To me that’s pretty amazing. Not that the house couldn’t have been cleared out, but I keep thinking of that 3000 mile journey. Not a thing on them at the time of the arrest. Dting off nubain/opiates while driving across the country, wow! Did they stop along the way to get straight. CT and KR knew many people in different cities. $8300 in a can at the time of the arrest; I wonder where they stopped along the way….You know they did…more than once. This would be interesting things people could put in their written/audio books.

]]> Comment on Titus subject of escape investigation by: KNEW THEM http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9372 Sun, 17 Dec 2006 11:22:56 +0000 http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9372 Why is my 2:45am comment awaiting moderation? Why is my 2:45am comment awaiting moderation?

]]> Comment on Titus subject of escape investigation by: KNEW THEM http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9371 Sun, 17 Dec 2006 11:18:06 +0000 http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9371 One thing that I am really surprised about is that there are only about 10 people who comment on this site with REAL statements. I usually like to really follow one trial at a time thats interesting. Isn't this interesting, intriguing, takes twists and turns, and has national exposure. Even if I didn't know them or had been involved in bbing, I still think I would have input on it. I did in the Laci Peterson case, O.J. and many, many more. One thing that I am really surprised about is that there are only about 10 people who comment on this site with REAL statements. I usually like to really follow one trial at a time thats interesting. Isn’t this interesting, intriguing, takes twists and turns, and has national exposure. Even if I didn’t know them or had been involved in bbing, I still think I would have input on it. I did in the Laci Peterson case, O.J. and many, many more.

]]> Comment on Titus subject of escape investigation by: KNEW THEM http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9362 Sun, 17 Dec 2006 07:45:03 +0000 http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9362 I'm sure a few of you are wondering why are they really trying to put the screws to Craig. You do have to take a side on this one because it is very obvious they(the law) want to put him away for a long time. I have said it many times that Craig was always around trouble, but seemed to come out o.k. At one time the D.E.A. and U.S. Customs wanted Craig to work with them on a major ring throughout the U.S. He DID NOT! He moved, and moved, and moved; couldn't keep anything in his name....for certain reasons and as strange as it sounds....kept a few very big named BBers careers continuing. Some BBers were taken down throughout this few year investigation. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the Craig I knew would help you before hurt you. I don't know what happened to MJ, but I bet in his own way he was trying to help Kelly. He and his lawyer said he's guilty of bad judgement, he has never denied that he is in this case. One is true about Craig that myself and his truely close friends will tell you; if you ask him something you will get the truth from him.... I’m sure a few of you are wondering why are they really trying to put the screws to Craig. You do have to take a side on this one because it is very obvious they(the law) want to put him away for a long time. I have said it many times that Craig was always around trouble, but seemed to come out o.k. At one time the D.E.A. and U.S. Customs wanted Craig to work with them on a major ring throughout the U.S. He DID NOT! He moved, and moved, and moved; couldn’t keep anything in his name….for certain reasons and as strange as it sounds….kept a few very big named BBers careers continuing. Some BBers were taken down throughout this few year investigation. I guess what I’m trying to say is that the Craig I knew would help you before hurt you. I don’t know what happened to MJ, but I bet in his own way he was trying to help Kelly. He and his lawyer said he’s guilty of bad judgement, he has never denied that he is in this case. One is true about Craig that myself and his truely close friends will tell you; if you ask him something you will get the truth from him….

]]> Comment on Titus subject of escape investigation by: chainsaw http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9359 Sun, 17 Dec 2006 07:34:13 +0000 http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9359 They are hoping one gets off, and the other will continue to pay and fight for the other... What ya'll think. I don't even care how he gets paid. Just a stellar court performance by good ol' Sagg will bring much publicity. He'll make out just fine. They are hoping one gets off, and the other will continue to pay and fight for the other… What ya’ll think.

I don’t even care how he gets paid. Just a stellar court performance by good ol’ Sagg will bring much publicity. He’ll make out just fine.

]]> Comment on Titus subject of escape investigation by: KNEW THEM http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9353 Sun, 17 Dec 2006 05:57:01 +0000 http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9353 Voice of Reason: I have NO idea why Saggase went right on Greta and said those words.....If you go back and look at a past post by myself, I said I couldn't believe I heard him say that. It basically was a confession to the arson charge; but there was a human being in the trunk. I've been reading over GJury trans. n interviews and I'm thinking Saggase has to have a story and time line nailed down that he will be presenting that says Craig is going to except 5 to 25 years. I don't think there is any way around it. Kelly, that's a totally different ball game. Voice of Reason: I have NO idea why Saggase went right on Greta and said those words…..If you go back and look at a past post by myself, I said I couldn’t believe I heard him say that. It basically was a confession to the arson charge; but there was a human being in the trunk. I’ve been reading over GJury trans. n interviews and I’m thinking Saggase has to have a story and time line nailed down that he will be presenting that says Craig is going to except 5 to 25 years. I don’t think there is any way around it. Kelly, that’s a totally different ball game.

]]> Comment on Titus subject of escape investigation by: Disgusted http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9351 Sun, 17 Dec 2006 04:54:44 +0000 http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9351 d*: Saggase cannot bill the county because he is acting as a private defense attorney not a public defender which CT is entitiled to. I have no idea what Saggase is hoping to gain from working for free (as if he doesn't know already). Maybe Craig promised him a part in the movie ;0). d*: Saggase cannot bill the county because he is acting as a private defense attorney not a public defender which CT is entitiled to. I have no idea what Saggase is hoping to gain from working for free (as if he doesn’t know already). Maybe Craig promised him a part in the movie ;0).

]]> Comment on Titus subject of escape investigation by: venice member, $Version=1 http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9339 Sat, 16 Dec 2006 23:55:19 +0000 http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9339 I have no clue what saggese's arrangement with Titus' is. All I'm saying is most attys don't bill their clients once everything is overwith - it's ongoing I have no clue what saggese’s arrangement with Titus’ is. All I’m saying is most attys don’t bill their clients once everything is overwith - it’s ongoing

]]> Comment on Titus subject of escape investigation by: venice member, $Version=1 http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9338 Sat, 16 Dec 2006 23:51:54 +0000 http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9338 I don't think my last comments posted - sorry if this is repeat info... I've payed as many as 5 different attys at the same time for business lawsuits. If attys are concerned about a clients ability to pay- they will generally do what they did to me: I was required to make a 25k deposit - an advance if you will- that was put into an account controlled by my atty... Per our agreement I had to maintain a balance of not less than 10k. Anytime my account got close to 10k I was required to deposit more $ I don’t think my last comments posted - sorry if this is repeat info…

I’ve payed as many as 5 different attys at the same time for business lawsuits.

If attys are concerned about a clients ability to pay- they will generally do what they did to me:

I was required to make a 25k deposit - an advance if you will- that was put into an account controlled by my atty…

Per our agreement I had to maintain a balance of not less than 10k.

Anytime my account got close to 10k I was required to deposit more $

]]> Comment on Titus subject of escape investigation by: venice member, $Version=1 http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9336 Sat, 16 Dec 2006 23:41:11 +0000 http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9336 I have no knowledge of Titus' personal finances...My sister is an atty and I've dealt with more attys than u would believe - I've been paying as many as 5 attys at one time with my business(talk about a nightmare)... At any rate many attourneys - if they fear you may not pay your bills require that your account not dip below a certain level. In my case I had to make an initial payment of 25k and anytime the account dipped below 10k - I would have to get it back to at least the 10k level... I have no idea I have no knowledge of Titus’ personal finances…My sister is an atty and I’ve dealt with more attys than u would believe - I’ve been paying as many as 5 attys at one time with my business(talk about a nightmare)…

At any rate many attourneys - if they fear you may not pay your bills require that your account not dip below a certain level.

In my case I had to make an initial payment of 25k and anytime the account dipped below 10k - I would have to get it back to at least the 10k level…

I have no idea

]]> Comment on Titus subject of escape investigation by: darkstar http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9334 Sat, 16 Dec 2006 21:46:09 +0000 http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9334 Venice, Are you referring to a client trust account? I have never heard of an "evergreen account"...trust accounts, or client money, does have to be kept separate and accounted for, but an attorneys own operating funds, well, thats the chance you take when you work for yourself...look at Tony Serra...he does most of his cases pro bono and damn near lives in his car...(Although currently he is in Club Fed for not paying taxes for several years...) How can a lawyer replenish it if there isnt any money coming in? Tell us more about this evergreen account thing... If they dont have any money does that mean they have to quit the case? d* Venice,

Are you referring to a client trust account? I have never heard of an “evergreen account”…trust accounts, or client money, does have to be kept separate and accounted for, but an attorneys own operating funds, well, thats the chance you take when you work for yourself…look at Tony Serra…he does most of his cases pro bono and damn near lives in his car…(Although currently he is in Club Fed for not paying taxes for several years…)

How can a lawyer replenish it if there isnt any money coming in? Tell us more about this evergreen account thing… If they dont have any money does that mean they have to quit the case?

d*

]]> Comment on Titus subject of escape investigation by: darkstar http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9333 Sat, 16 Dec 2006 21:38:42 +0000 http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9333 Disgusted, I've wondered about this from the get go...the way this whole case is dragging along, the bills keep coming... Sure ,Saggese might get some publicity, but publicity dont pay the bills...and this isnt exactly the OJ trial...(although OJ paid his lawyers, to the extent of even signing over his house in Brentwood to Shapiro as I undersood it) Unlike this cretin who stiffed his lawyer in spite of arguably being able to pay, I dont see where CT has the loot to pay even if he wanted to... Saggese will probably bill the county and the taxpayers will pick up the tab, as they usually do anyway...I dont know if he can do that, especially when CT is entitled to at least the Public Defender...dont know....anybody know? d* Disgusted,

I’ve wondered about this from the get go…the way this whole case is dragging along, the bills keep coming…

Sure ,Saggese might get some publicity, but publicity dont pay the bills…and this isnt exactly the OJ trial…(although OJ paid his lawyers, to the extent of even signing over his house in Brentwood to Shapiro as I undersood it)

Unlike this cretin who stiffed his lawyer in spite of arguably being able to pay, I dont see where CT has the loot to pay even if he wanted to…

Saggese will probably bill the county and the taxpayers will pick up the tab, as they usually do anyway…I dont know if he can do that, especially when CT is entitled to at least the Public Defender…dont know….anybody know?

d*

]]> Comment on Titus subject of escape investigation by: venice member, $Version=1 http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9331 Sat, 16 Dec 2006 21:25:15 +0000 http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9331 Most attys have what's called "an evergreen account" u actually have to maintain a positive balance and once it dips below a certain level replenish it. Most attys have what’s called “an evergreen account” u actually have to maintain a positive balance and once it dips below a certain level replenish it.

]]> Comment on Titus subject of escape investigation by: Disgusted http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9330 Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:58:35 +0000 http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9330 Today's Orange County Register contains a story of another attorney for a high profile case who got stiffed for his bill after the trial was over. The punk who videoed the rape of the 16 year old girl on his dad's pool table hired Joe Cravallo to represent his kid. Mind you the dad who has a net worth exceeding that of Titus' family hired Cravallo for two trials never paid the bill when his son was convicted. Sagesse can definitely expect the same from Titus after the trial, he'll never get paid which brings up an interesting question; Sagesse has to know the Titus is not capable of paying him so what's his motivation to take a case where you have a defendant who has overwhelming evidence against him, won't keep his mouth shut and has no hopes of an aquittal? Today’s Orange County Register contains a story of another attorney for a high profile case who got stiffed for his bill after the trial was over.

The punk who videoed the rape of the 16 year old girl on his dad’s pool table hired Joe Cravallo to represent his kid. Mind you the dad who has a net worth exceeding that of Titus’ family hired Cravallo for two trials never paid the bill when his son was convicted.

Sagesse can definitely expect the same from Titus after the trial, he’ll never get paid which brings up an interesting question;

Sagesse has to know the Titus is not capable of paying him so what’s his motivation to take a case where you have a defendant who has overwhelming evidence against him, won’t keep his mouth shut and has no hopes of an aquittal?

]]> Comment on Titus subject of escape investigation by: Voice of Reason http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9303 Sat, 16 Dec 2006 13:50:27 +0000 http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9303 Knew Them; What about CT's confession of "guilt of bad judgement" in burning the body? I am wondering how Saggese will explain this away. Knew Them;

What about CT’s confession of “guilt of bad judgement” in burning the body? I am wondering how Saggese will explain this away.

]]> Comment on Titus subject of escape investigation by: KNEW THEM http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9293 Sat, 16 Dec 2006 10:36:53 +0000 http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9293 Hey Guys and Gals: I bet 50% of what we discuss will never even see a courtroom, but on another note I taking a wild stabb at the fact that Saggese may use a time line and cell phone records to try and place CT away from the crime. Hey Guys and Gals: I bet 50% of what we discuss will never even see a courtroom, but on another note I taking a wild stabb at the fact that Saggese may use a time line and cell phone records to try and place CT away from the crime.

]]> Comment on Titus subject of escape investigation by: KNEW THEM http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9284 Sat, 16 Dec 2006 08:06:08 +0000 http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9284 At least they get U comatosed loaded before they stop your heart. At least they get U comatosed loaded before they stop your heart.

]]> Comment on Titus subject of escape investigation by: darkstar http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9268 Sat, 16 Dec 2006 03:53:54 +0000 http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9268 VOR, No electric chair in Nevada, just lethal injection... They just shoot em up and rent their cell to the next perp... d* VOR,

No electric chair in Nevada, just lethal injection…

They just shoot em up and rent their cell to the next perp…

d*

]]> Comment on Titus subject of escape investigation by: Voice of Reason http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9255 Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:10:06 +0000 http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9255 d* Hopefully he can also do something with that bald head. Looking at it, I can't help but think, at least it makes a good conductor. d*

Hopefully he can also do something with that bald head. Looking at it, I can’t help but think, at least it makes a good conductor.

]]> Comment on Titus subject of escape investigation by: darkstar http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9253 Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:25:07 +0000 http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9253 Chain, VOR, I don't think CT's lawyer has much control over CT...Saggese very well may be telling CT to STFU but if so, CT sure doesnt seem to be paying attention... Saggese may be saying, oh crap, what next from this guy...? Kelly, to her credit, is keeping a low profile. It will be interesting to see if CT cleans up that axe murderer motif when the trial comes around... d* Chain, VOR,

I don’t think CT’s lawyer has much control over CT…Saggese very well may be telling CT to STFU but if so, CT sure doesnt seem to be paying attention…

Saggese may be saying, oh crap, what next from this guy…?

Kelly, to her credit, is keeping a low profile.

It will be interesting to see if CT cleans up that axe murderer motif when the trial comes around…

d*

]]> Comment on Titus subject of escape investigation by: Voice of Reason http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9245 Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:33:14 +0000 http://www.titusandryan.com/2006/12/12/titus-subject-of-escape-investigation/#comment-9245 Yeah Chain I agree with you in some of the pictures CT looks like an axe murder. Something I can't quite figure out is why is CT's attorney letting him talk so much? KR has been quite as a church mouse through this whole ordeal. I get this feeling that they are letting CT hang himself. I am wondering if they are going to remind him of all of this during the trial. Yeah Chain I agree with you in some of the pictures CT looks like an axe murder. Something I can’t quite figure out is why is CT’s attorney letting him talk so much? KR has been quite as a church mouse through this whole ordeal. I get this feeling that they are letting CT hang himself. I am wondering if they are going to remind him of all of this during the trial.

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