The main problem I have with Lee and Wecht are that they are pretty much paid mouthpieces for who ever pays their fee…

Both of these guys are semi celebs, and Wecht has got some legal problems of his own right now. I just think that “expert witnesses” like them are out to promote themselves, and have little interest in a proper judicial result. Their huge fees have clouded their sense of propriety, in my opinion. The same goes for that hack Michael Baden. What an ego maniac he is. Recall he was the star expert in the Binion trial who put forth his theory (without ever seeing the actual body) that Dead Ted was “burked” by Tabish and Murphy…He was paid big time by the Binion family…Although several other more plausible theories were proffered by other experts, the jury bought Baden’s and went guilty on Tabish and Murphy. As you recall, the murder charges were overturned, and on retrial Tabish and Murphy were found not guilty of the murder: the absolute right call on that case in my opinion.
Lastly, remember Baden testified at the Scott Peterson trial, and without even examining the remains, testified as to his theory…Now, I think Scott is guilty, but my point is that these expert witnesses are less relevant in my opinion because of their celeb status and the fact that they get paid huge fees to slant testimony toward whoever is writing the checks…

Call me cynical…

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I think it is air injected into an artery, like the carotid, that would be deadly, since they travel to the brain. A nurse told me this, so I assume she is right, but I dont know much more about it…It would sure be a creepy way to kill someone…

And yes, why duct tape an OD’d person? That is is taking the “bad judgment” strategy a bit far, dontcha think?

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Here’s three more words for you, ya moron: Pogue mo chone…

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Your research sure seems on the right track.

Once heroin is injected and absorbed in the body, the remainder reforms into morphine…that is why heroin per se is not found in the blood of heroin OD victims…Im not a chemist, and I am not sure if acetalmorphine is what you would find if you used or got stuck with only morphine, or if it is consistent specifically with heroin usage…

For all we know CT and KR may have shot her up with heroin…I’m sure more details on the extent of the drug use of those involved will be forthcoming…it won’t be pretty I’d guess…

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Actually, Im not sure it would take a few minutes to load a syringe and stick it into someone…
For example, you have the bottle with the little rubber seal thing that the doc sticks the needle into to load the syringe…sucks in the dope, pulls out the needle, squirts it to evacuate the air, and poke…also, who knows if they bothered to evacuate the air from the syringe…injecting air into the bloodstream can kill too from what I understand…although I cant recall any details about if they simply stuck it in her leg, or…

These folks had needles a plenty, apparently, and knew how to use them. This is a 10-15 second operation at best. And that is if they had to load…if it was preloaded, well, even quicker….

Just my guess…

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Are you sure that it was Nubain. Kelly told Megan foley I believe that craig bought morphine for $500 from someone who’s parents had cancer. Nubain I believe is a $50 bottle 10 or 20mg per cc, 10cc bottle. I wonder, was the syringe preloaded that kelly shot Mj with. It would take several minutes to load up a syringe and then inject in. In which CT was holding MJ down for several minutes. There must been a helluva struggle. I really can’t wait to read puits evidance book.

Yes, a hairtest can go back years, so you are right. As far as we know it was just morphine that was found in her blood that KR was have to have said to inject to one of the witnesses. M foley or A polk. I forget which one.

Fair enough, but that would rule out a meth OD, if there is such a thing, right?

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There was hair analysis taken, and showed that Meth was used previously, not nessecarily in her blood, but proof of previous usage. Hair testing is the methond the casino’s use to drug test here in vegas. Trust me on this, it is true. And I don’t want any disrespect for MJ because of this either from anyone, but this is a fact.

I think you are right on about the attorneys. Did you see the quote from Craig’s new lawyer: “I’m going to walk him…”
Yeah, right…walk him right into state prison is more like it…
Yup, somebody is going to roll…

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You could be right about that…

I’m thinking that Gross may get a deal to testify against C and K. His charges are not as severe as C and K’s, and he is out on bail…

It is very plausible that C and K are equally culpable. My guess is that Gross will be an important player at the trial, against C and K. I think he is likely scared shitless.

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I don’t know kelly, seen her at golds in venice and she seemed white trashy. Any comments?

I hope Gross does testify against them both. Talk about being dragged into a nightmare. It will be interesting to hear his side of this twisted saga.

I also think Anthony Gross may drive a few nails as well. He appears to be just another useful idiot that CT used…Gross will spill everything he knows. I doubt he is feeling too loyal toward CT these days…

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That would be my guess…Plus, the reality is, the court docket is jammed, and attorneys on both sides generally dont mind having more time, either to prepare, or as you said, let the dust settle a little bit…

Then again, after a year in jail, publicity will have died down to where getting a jury who hasnt been inundated with details of the case will be easier, perhaps…

Remember OJ…they had a hell of a time getting a jury panel for that one…the whole freaking country watched the white bronco chase…

I dont think it will be quite the same situation with these two.

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